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words confirming that tax hike, coming irrespective of the fiscal cliff outcome. >> taxes are going to go up one way or the other, the key is to make taxes go up and high-end individuals, i am confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. lou: obamacare, guarantees taxes are going up. 5 new obam obamacare-based taxeo kick in next year. a 3.8% surtax on unearned income, and call chains and dividend 18.8%, and a new tax on hospital care, and medical device manufacturersing' taxed 2.3% of the price of their products. americans get a tax deduction if their medical expenses exceed 7.5% of their total income that number rising to 10% for everyone under the age of 65. and government, for first time ever sending a limit on tax free flexible spending accounts, joint committee tax, estimates those 5 new provisions amount to $2 60 billion tax hike over next 7 years, president obama, avoid anything real negotiating on fiscal cliff issue, president doubles the amount of tax hikes he campaigned on when he unveiled his
parts of this. when you hear about the fiscal cliff, it is not really the tax rate. i do not buy that at all. i do not think we need to increase these tax rates. >> if you go over and the tax rates go up on everyone and all that goes away -- >> i do not think we should do it. i think we should resolve this. it depends on if we do something about it in the next month or two after that. if we do something in 30 days or 90 days and we are clear about that, but nothing people believe we are going to do something until we do it. >> the to go to the broader concern. does the top rate have to end the 39.6% the way it was under bill clinton? could be democrats accept something between if it was coupled with a reduction in the ability on the top 2% to except a reduction of deductions? >> i do not want to second-guess what we might decide. i do not think that is what we should debate the right now. multimillionaires and what deductions they can take is something different. this is where we are. >> that is in addition to. >> yes, in addition to. the problem with having that debate now sugge
pelosi was talking about wasn't exactly the tax cuts now, fiscal cliff later. both sides have said this has to be a two-step process, there has to be some kind of commitment in downpayment on taxes and entitlement cuts and sets up a framework for broader and comprehensive tax and entitlement reform next year because it is such a big, huge change to how we tax and how we would provide medicare and medicaid and social security, you can't do it all in four books. this new idea that republicans get more leverage if they give the president taxes now and hold out on, and hold the line on the debt ceiling like they did last summer successfully is something that is new and i think a different kind of two-part plan that republicans are starting to consider as maybe a backup plan that gives them the ability to say we lost the 2% tax hikes now, but we're going to fight later on the debt ceiling. >> let me bring in congressman james lang foford, fifth rankin republican in the house, congratulations, good morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> let me ask you about the possibility of some sort
, ands or buts on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas. i'm not going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> that's not a no. here is the treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> there's no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> not necessarily going up to the clinton era rates. just going up. today at a press conference at the capital, boehner got a question about this. listen carefully to how he responded or didn't respond. >> you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize this call? and also we understand that he just is making clear that it's got to be increasing rates for the wealthy or no deal. are you willing to give a little bit? maybe just not all the way to 39.6? >> the phone call was pleasant, but just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> not a no on
gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all the gloom the president said he remains confident a fiscal cliff deal will get done. charlie and norah? >> major garrett thank you. nancy pelosi leads the democratseads in the house of representatives. we're pleased to have her with this m us.good good morning. >> good morning. >> where are these negotiations? when they were bargaining over the grand bargain you gave the the president and your caucus did
democrats. "no signs of reaching a deal revealed." as part of this so-called fix -- fiscal cliff, what tax deductions would you give up? fort lauderdale, hello. caller: hello. good morning. i feel that i would be willing to give up some of my medicare benefits. i currently get free shoes and other benefits from medicare that i would be willing to give up. host: anything that you would be willing to give up on your taxes? items that you have in the past? caller: i would be willing to give up my charitable deductions. host: how come? caller: i feel that i give part of it to my charitable deductions. host: would you still make donations to charity if you could not write it off on your taxes? caller: yes, i would. host: thank you for your call. joe? caller: i would be willing to give up earned income credit and i liked what the last caller said about modifying the amount for charitable deductions. i think that sometimes the very rich use that to give to charities that actually benefit themselves. i also have a contingency, which would be to reform the bankruptcy act and remove those benefits f
on different aspects of the fiscal cliff. we want to look at capital gains tax and the estate tax. what is the estate tax? guest: it goes back to history -- it was put in place to prevent the united states from developing an aristocracy. a tax on estates that are passed down to heirs. republicans called the death tax. they have characterized it as a bad thing. it has a lot of a populist opposition to it. george w. bush signed in a phase-out of the estate tax. the top rate stays at 55%. the exemption level started rising from $1 million and going up. it was repealed completely in 2010 for one year. then it sprang back to life as part of the extension of the bush tax cuts that president obama signed into law. you have a debate -- very few members dispute that it needs to be continued. the debate is over whether you continue it at the current level. there is an exemption level, $10 million for a couple. or at the white house would prefer a 45% rate. that is the debate right now. there's a split among democrats. the white house wants a less generous estate tax. red-leaning states like max b
in america so in a year from now we will have a worst fiscal cliff and that is the real fiscal cliff $16 trillion debt which the tax you have 200,000 less jobsve next year and the people voting for that will be responsible and held accountable for the public policy. >>neil: you have been talking about freeing out to the middle-class. for and reason in the last election republicans lost the middle class. they seemed to get stereotypes as the party that appeals only to the well-to-do. what i am asking you, how do you change that? the perception sticks in the eyes of some. >>guest: first of all, we need to understand the middle class makes us different and exceptional. every didn't has rich people but what makes us different in history is we have a broad based vibrant middle class. it is not just people in the hill class but millions of people that are trying to get to the middle class. i rely on my occupy life experience. my parents worked in the service industry, immigrants, they did not make a lot of money, a bartender and maid and they owned a house and a car. today all four of their ch
of the fiscal cliff, we are going to have $270 billion in tax hikes that start effective january 1. thank you, obamacare. nancy pelosi has said that if you want to find out what's in it, just pass it. we are finding out and we are going to have a terrific group of people, including john cruz, the vice president of hsbc, who is the whistleblower on the $1.9 billion in fines if they just had to pay for money laundering along with middle eastern terrorists. mexican drug cartels, african dictators, all of the really nice people that they had no idea where problem. by the way, nobody going to jail will be taking that up. we will have coming up next. tracy: all right, "lou dobbs tonight" at 7:00 p.m. and 10:00 p.m. eastern. when we come back, how to beat the street. covering your assets with tips with picking winners on wall street. stay with us you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, use doctor recommended gaviscon®. only gaviscon® forms a protective barrier that helps block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly. try fast, long lasting gaviscon
from now we'll have a worse fiscal cliff. we have a 16 trillion-dollar debt. these tax increases do nothing to self, you have 200,000 less jobs next year for, that those who vote for that will be held responsible for that decision. neil: is it terrible public policy if you leave off the table. what accounts the majority of spending off the table. if you leave out medicare, and medicaid, and don't even pry to brid up -- try to bring up social security, 8 democratic members and congressmen marked that, d't touch these entitlements, one of next. s. i was always interrupting my teammates. earlier in my career, my coach approached me. he said, "i think that, you know, sometimes i don't feel like you're focused." it was my adhd. like many kids with adhd, i didn't outgrow it. if you were diagnosed with adhd as a kid, you might still have it. find out more. take a quiz at ownitquiz.com to help recognize the symptoms. then talk with your doctor. it's your adhd. own it. >> the cuts to medicaid are not the solution. medicaid and medicare, we can discuss that later. don't make medicare and medi
of negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff. disagreements on taxing the wealthy remains one of the sticking points between the two sides. this is about five minutes. >> good morning, everyone. this is not a progress report because there is no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago, secretary geithner kaine your to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts, and it had an indefinite and infinite increase in the debt limit, like forever. four days ago, we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there has been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to push our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. instead of reforming the tax code and cutting spending, the president wants to raise tax rates. even if the president got the tax rate hike he wan
the president and speaker have taken no concrete steps to resolvthe so-alled fiscal cliff. president obama remains insistent that republicans yields to his ultimatum thahe be allowed to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year. republicans for their part insist that the president gets serious about cutting spending in order to reducetrillion dollar deficits and a natonal debt that is nw mind-boggling league not -- monotonous. house minority leader disagrees vehemently with the speaker on how to reduce deficits and debt. today she offered a paradoxical statement on scal policy that wouldake both casey stieel and yogi berra proud. the nation now just 24 days away from $600 billion of spending cuts and tax increases that will automatically kicked in. and pelosi has some wise words for washington. please listen terror. >> this is a mment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. in many homes across america it is very, very lean times. you cannot cut your way to deficit reduction. lou: that's right. pelosi says we cannot get ou
competition on tablets, and more concerns about tax selling ahead of the fiscal cliff. still, shares are up 32% year to date. the stock now on track to be down for the ninth week in the last 11. on average, though, when apple has hit that death cross, shares have gained about 1.1% the following week. apple, bill, the reason that the nasdaq is the big underperformer this week. if apple had been added to the dow instead of united health earlier this year, we would have seen a 700-point decline for this pullback in apple. >> we would have been much higher in the dow than we are now. thanks, bertha. what's to do with apple? is it a buy? do you avoid it? let's talk numbers on this today. what to do with this dreaded death cross? >> bill, a lot of clients of phoenix partners are calling in and saying, you know, what do i do now? is this the time to buy apple? my answer is simply, no, no, no. this is not the time to buy. lefts look at a longer term chart. what i want to point to is the nice, healthy, steady increase in price from 2009. all of the sudden, you know, greed takes over. the stock rallies.
of the fiscal cliff instead of engaging in serious talks to avert the cliff, that includes spending cuts and tax reforms the president once supported. the white house has only offered a joke. i understand we have speaker boehner to the microphones. let's take a listen. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. eight days ago secretary geithner came here to offer a plan that had twice the tax hikes that the president campaigned on. it had more stimulus spending than it had in cuts. and an indefinite, infinite increase on the debt limit, like forever. four days ago we offered a serious proposal, based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then, there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the cliff. instead of cutting spending, the president want to raise tax rates. but even if the president got the tax rate hike that he wanted, understand that we would c
, and cut a deal that hurts growth,o from a year from now we'll have a worse fiscal cliff. we have a 16 trillion-dollar debt. these tax increases do nothing to self, you have 200,000 less jobs next year for, that those who vote for that will be held responsible for that decision. neil: is it terrible public policy if you leave off the table. what accounts the majority of spending off the table. if you leave out medicare, and medicaid, and don't even pry to bridge up -- try to bring up social security, 8 democratic members and congressmen marked that, don't touch these entitlements, one of next. ♪ [ gine revs ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz winter ent back, with the perfect vehicle that's just right for you, no matter which list you're on. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease a 2013 c250 for $349 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. >> the cuts to medicaid are not the solution. medicaid and medicare, we can discuss that later. don't make medicare and medicaid a part of this fiscal reduction program. >> we're not budging on medicare, and we're not bud
. >> the uncertainty? >> yeah. >> blake, if there is a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, could these jobs numbers get considerable better? >> i think so, but it's funny. the republicans are in a bit of a box here. their motivation is to say it's not so good. a lot of jobless people out there. we have a real problem. meanwhi meanwhile, we have fiscal cliff negotiations where the president wants stimulus mechanisms including an extension of unemployment insurance. they're like a doctor who diagnosed you with a severe ill sxns won't sign the precipitation to give you the medicine. they emphasize the joblessness problem, and they don't want to give you unemployment insurance and tell that to someone laid off sleeping in their car. >> with these jobs numbers, had hurricane sandy not struck how better would this report have been? >> a lot of this was construction job weakness. clearly, that will rebound. one of the unfortunate upsides of natural disaster is that you do, whether the states or federal governments do it or insurance companies, you have a lot of infrastructure spending as people re
for the bush tax cuts to be made permanent for rich and poor as part of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. and the very same christine welker joins us live from the white house. you reported this earlier today. the speaker's office is now pushing back a little bit claiming there are no parameters on what tax reform would look like. but they aren't denying what you said, are they? >> they're not directly denying it. their point is raising tax rates or keeping them low is a moot point. because they have always been opposed to raising tax rates on wealthy americas. they say it would hurt small business owners. they're calling for overall tax reform, they say. but this has evolved into a game of chicken with both sides refusing to concede anything until the other side does first. so yesterday it seemed like there was some movement. today it seems as though these negotiations are really to some extent falling apart. as you know president obama and john boehner spoke on the phone yesterday. sources on both sides are describing that phone conversation as tense in large part because of this issue
of the fight over that looming fiscal cliff focusing on tax rates we want to look at that claim, that claim specific to spending to see how it stands up with the facts. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on this story. >> reporter: good morning, jenna. the republicans claim democrats are solely focused on raising tax rates not spending cuts. democrats counter what we heard from nancy pelosi. democrats agreed to over a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the budget control act in 2011. indeed hear is the document. letter from cbo to spiker boehner laying out $915 billion in cuts between 2012 and to 21. the brookings institution it is a fact, she says pelosi was right. listen up. >> there are two different conversation going on about these numbers. one is about the cuts that are already embedded in law which is evidently what nancy pelosi was talking about and they are absolutely embedded in law and there is no question about them. >> reporter: but not so fast. keep in mind that these numbers were derived from baseline budgeting that is a washington gimmick that no family balancing
guest is concerned that we are going over the fiscal cliff. he says, preside obama seemingly is intent on rsing his post-election advantage to win tax increaseson the wealthy and to eliminate the houses debt ceiling leveraged. joining us now from washington d.c., peter wallace, former reagan white house counsel, former member of the financial crisis inquiry commission. a senior fellow at the american enterprise institute. good to have you here. you believe there going or the cliff. >> i think their is a real danger of this. one can see a path for obaaa that does not look so terrible if we do go over the cliff. all of the taxes go up, but the democrats have an opportunity to introduce legislation to reduce the taxes for 98 percent of the people leaving the wealthier people, i guess you could call them wealthy, the top two percentage to stay at the high rates. it is possible to do this. lou: it is posible, but i have to ask you, surely the republicans have to understand and had understand six months ago what what transpired in this lame duck session of congress? what this president oud
. they are understanding it as we get closer to the fiscal cliff. >> it says a signal to people that the senate passed tax cuts for 98% of americans but they won't do it in the house. that was before the election. and i just holding the ground is going to be important, no question about that. i get a sense the democrats are unified. but going over the cliff, that affects the constituents big time. correct? >> how do you hold that together? >> there's unanimity that july 25th, we passed tax cuts for the 98% to continue this tax policy that they get an average tax cut meaning if it expires, their taxes go up. republicans know that. republicans know if they don't do it by january 1st, we're going to keep passing tax cuts for the middle class. if they keep saying no, eventually they won't because the public pressure will be on them they need to step up. they have to quit protecting. they do everything in the name of the wealthy. >> okay. sherrod brown, stay with us. i appreciate it. >>> it looks like senator-elect elizabeth warren, a champion of financial reform, will get a spot on the banking committee. >>>
, congressional republicans are crafting a doomsday scenario for the fiscal cliff. it would allow a vote on extending only the bush middle class tax cuts and nothing elseings, effectively slamming the ball into the president's court for a new year's showdown on the debt ceiling. no compromise on extending unemployment or altering the tax code for those loopholes or raising fed reral revenues. politicians are allowed to thrive off of our democratic life blood. what is missing in light of this january 1st manufactured deadline? any talk of the very real physical foibles in our country. we have chosen to ignore the ways policies have created a governor for and by the entity. when republicans or democrats asked for top earners to pay their fair share, both sides are still ignoring it sources of the fiscal crisis. when so many americans do not make a living wage, the economy cannot recover nor can our budgets be balanced. so many more of us are being forced to rely on a fiscal floor that only our federal government is now capable of providing, running up our federal debt and demanding increas
-- >> rubio. >> stephanie: on the fiscal cliff. >> we must reform our complicated job killing tax code. our goal should be to generate new revenue by creating new taxpayers, not new taxes. >> stephanie: he seems like 12 to me when i saw him speak the other day. look at me. i'm young and brown. >> oh, stop it. >> stephanie: representative randy forbes. >> the president doesn't want to get an agreement or compromise, he wants to get his way. that's why he won't come to the table with any serious proposal and simply talk because i think if we do that, we can get a solution that everybody could live with. we're willing to sit down and negotiate and talk about these ideas and principles but where is the senate? where is the president? the american people can hear what they're putting on the table but secondly, realizing the senate and president are missing in action. >> stephanie: right. i think as dick durbin said on "meet the press," you can reach him any time. why won't the president sit down? you know where
with the fiscal cliff. but it has everything to do with obamacare. >> now, it is true that a lot of those taxes did take place after the election. that's something we pointed out and is a fair point. but let me just ask you about the compromise we have to go to. because like i said, again, to get this done, taxes are -- i mean, they're going to go up on somebody. i just believe that this is what is going to happen. i think tom cole thinks it's going to happen. i think tom coburn thinks it's going to happen. i wanted to play a bite from him and get your reaction. here he is. >> sure. >> i'm okay to compromise even on some of my issues, if, in fact, we'll solve the problem. but what we have is a game being played for political -- for the extreme right wing and the extreme left win rather than coming together and leading and solving the problem. >> so grover norquist. if you had to accept the tax rates would go up, all right, just they're going to go up and they're going to go up on somebody. what would you really want in return? not revenue-neutral. real tax increases. what do you want in return?
% as part of a larger fiscal cliff deal. in a conference call today, their chairman at the business roundtable said, some executives are unhappy that we want to even mention revenues or taxes but he said everybody's got to feel a little bit like they are getting nailed and then we will know if we've got a deal. white house officials met with this group and also helped them get to this place. they said, bottom line, they knew that they thought their prospects deal was grim and this was a step they had to take to help both sides come to a deal. >> maybe it will help because a lot of these guys are very, very influential. speaking of the fiscal cliff, jessica, what did the fed chairman ben bernanke say about these current negotiations? >> well, bernanke is the man credited with coining the term fiscal cliff. he did it back in february as part of testimony before congress. bernanke was speaking at a press conference today and he was asked two things. one, does he see impacts from the fiscal cliff, the lack of a deal, is it already rippling through the economy in? he said, yes. that's wh
up to the fiscal cliff. >> brian: at least they are talking to each other. they are talking about raising rates for medicare to scen . rates to 37 . difdepped and inheritance and capitol gains on tap to go up. that could be devastating. >> steve: especially the difid end tax up a gigantical. >> brian: and capitol gains up five points. >> gretchen: stay tuned for that. he risked his life to help americans nail bin laden and now fox news has learned he was torteured in a pakistani jail. family members of the doctor said they can't even visit him. he was captured by pakistani officials and sentenced to 33 years in prison. got most wanten in the world. >> brian: why is there not more outrage on that. >> steve: and now extreme weather. he survived a tornado only to have this happen. watch. >> oh, my god, oh, my god. ci'm okay. che was chatting with a tv reporter when the roof came crashing down and luckily it was all caught on camera. >> gretchen: in country illegally. the university of california at berklyy offered 200 scholarship. a private company do mated money. >> brian: an easy b
of problems in this country and that's why the fiscal cliff, this thing is not the result of taxes, it's as a result of spending and too many people not having jobs to be able to pay in not just their taxes but to be able to sustain our economy. and so we have millions of people that are unemployed and drawing unemployment compensation. we are seeing disabilities rise at a rate of 16% every year. one thing which we note that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on taxing and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition with the world. the next new great ideas. not that will come from this body but from the creativity of the american people. this is what republicans are trying to keep alive in our country. the idea of self-reliance and w
'll discuss the implications of the fiscal cliff, and what happens if we don't get some work done by the house to pass the middle-income tax cut. we have to continue to focus on middle-income families, their lives, their struggles and what we can do to ensure they have more dollars in their pocket to continue economic growth. with that, mr. president, i will yield the floor. and note the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: mr. schumer: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from new york. mr. schumer: i ask unanimous consent the quorum call be repealed. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. schumer: thank you, mr. president. first i want to thank my great colleague from pennsylvania, i enjoyed sharing a table last night with him and his beautiful, charming, intelligent wife, who he's lucky he would be the first to admit he's lucky to have married, and their four great girls. but second, thank him for his excellent, as usual, on-target remarks. we have a great chairman of the j.e.c. and every time he comes to the floor, it sh
creditors and there may be others in the pipeline. bill: negotiations on that fiscal cliff and his first one-on-one television interview since reelection president obama says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class families that make up the difference. bill: john boehner will speak later this hour. we'll see how he responds to that comment. if washington can't get a deep, automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts do take effect. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more ef
of a fiscal cliff. we did not arrive there by not paying enough taxes. the federal government spends insane amounts of money and even by reducing us all to serfs, the taxes will not cover the spending. well said. here's jerry from lamar. she said, please stop spending our money. walk away from the table if they're not willing to stop wasting our hard-earned money. reform the entitlements and lower the taxes. nothing else in my opinion is acceptable. do not go back to the clinton era. that administration led use in a recession and do not raise the inheritance tax. and then listen to this, she said, i am from a family of farmers. that will kill our family and many others and make it impossible to keep farms that have been in our family for generations. that is the most unfair tax there is. this country will not survive more blows to small business and the middle class. stop the insanity and stop it soon. and finally from patrigsa in jefferson city, she said, i want to voice my opinion on what's happening in washington right now. politicians have put us in this mess with excessive spending. i
.9% the month before. now, economists say these numbers are huge for fiscal cliff negotiations. they back president obama's argument that the economy is doing well enough to handle attack -- handle a tax hike for wealthier americans. >> the fact that this this report is strong, i think puts a little bit of wind in his sails. >> reporter: john boehner is holding a news conference here on capitol hill. he's now lead -- he's now leading the negotiations with president obama. we will show -- we will show you -- tell you what he has to say coming up next hour. >>> starting next year, apple will start making some of its products here in the u.s. apple's ceo tim cook says one of its manufacturing operations will be moved here from china. it's not clear where that assembly plant will be. that announcement comes as criticism is mounting. >>> well, clorox corporation has a deal with a san diego- based investor to sell its headquarters building in downtown san diego. west core properties agreed to buy the 24-story building on broadway. the terms of the deal, that has not been disclosed. but analysts
a heated rock in my terrarium. >> my shell will protect me if i fall off the fiscal cliff. >> stephanie: nothing he said there was true. he doesn't want to raise taxes on everyone else. he wants to lower them on 98%. >> he wants the tax rate to go back to where it was. >> exactly. >> every line of that was a lie. >> stephanie: the president. >> obama: i'm encouraged to see there has been some discussion on the part of republicans acknowledging the need for additional revenue. as i indicated the only way to get the kind of revenue for an balanced plan is to make sure we are moderately increasing rates for folks who can afford it. folks like me. >> stephanie: do you think behind closed doors, jim, he is like all right. i have to say this again? fine. >> a way of saying it without swearing. >> stephanie: yeah. jenny in go to meeting. hi jenny. >> caller: hi sweety. first of all because i watch you on current, i would like to say one thing, please read your hat to us at the beginning of the show. and also explain the t-shirt, because i can't read it for nothing. >> stephan
right now. >>> our country will be heading over the fiscal cliff that we ourselves dug and put in our way. it's the set of automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that can only be averted if our nation's leaders are able to display bear bones competence and middle school-level maturity. so is there a deal? >> there's, of course, no deal. >> of course! is there a prospect for a deal? >> there's not a prospect for a deal. >> of course! but the ongoing talks. >> there aren't even very many talks going on. >> you're killing us! give us something. >> but for the first time, there are numbers on pieces of paper from both sides. >> numbers on paper! >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 5th. welcome to "morning joe." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place
with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers u
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